This past weekend I knew I had to go up in the attic and put away the lighter weight warm weather shirts and clothing, and get out some heavier weight oxford cloth and flannel shirts. As it's been a while since I did one of these posts on shirts, just for fun, I thought it might be interesting to compare two new Brooks Brothers shirts from different eras. Though not a new idea, of course, the problem with this sort of thing is not having a new old stock shirt at hand to use for comparison. Fortunately, I have one. The shirt on the above left is a contemporary candy stripe button-down currently offered by Brooks Brothers. The shirt on the above right is a new old stock (nos) Brooks Brothers "Makers" candy stripe button-down, circa 1987.
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I'm terrible at keeping off-season clothing of like types in the same cases, so I had to hunt all over the attic for the oxfords that I put away during the hottest part of the year. Once I got the oxfords all rustled together, I thought about figuring out how many I actually have, and though I wasn't able to get through all of the cases, the oxfords above are a pretty representative group. All are Brooks Brothers, most "Makers," and there are some unusual solid colors like stone, helio, burgundy and peach, as well as a couple of yellow and green candy stripes. Like many guys, I seem to have a fair amount of blue.
There are also pressed shirts from the cleaners that I should really bring down from the attic and put in the rotation of others shirts from the cleaners.
As I was going through some cases, I was reminded of some new old stock shirts that I still have such as the madras and bold stripe shirts above.
There are also some odd-ball new old stock shirts like the Brooksflannel and Brooksgate does workwear shirts above.
In addition there was a new old stock Brookscloth in blue broadcloth. These were great shirts. I vastly prefer them to the current non-iron shirts. If you can find new old stock broadcloth like this - it's great.
Old style tag, too.
There were also some other new old stock shirts like the pinpoint oxford in blue above, along with another Brookscloth in a brown stripe, and a few candy stripes.
Right. So I thought it might be interesting to compare a contemporary new candy stripe shirt (right), made at the Brooks Brothers Garland, North Carolina factory, with a new old stock one (left) from around 1987 - from the golden age of the Paterson, New Jersey Brooks Brothers shirt factory. This older "Makers" shirt is still in the original packaging and had the pins still in it.
Neither had been laundered yet, so the plan is to get some first impressions here before laundering them, and then in a followup post, draw some conclusions about the current Brooks button-downs.
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The nos Makers shirt has a slightly grayer shade of blue stripe than the contemporary shirt below. The collar is noticably thinner and lighter. The buttons are the older clear plastic buttons that one doesn't see much anymore. This is the gold standard by which Brooks Brothers shirts were, and should still be, measured by, so it will be interesting to see how the contemporary shirt below measures up. The tag reads "Brooks Brothers Makers 16-4 All Cotton Machine Wash No Chlorine Bleach Made in U.S.A." When I checked some 1987 era catalogs, other shirt labels read "Made in U.S.A. of Imported Fabric." It then occurred to me that perhaps the reason that this shirt does not use the word "imported" is that the fabric was also milled in the States. If this is true, the entire shirt, fabric and construction were made in the USA.
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The contemporary shirt is a bit brighter hue of blue, and the collar is noticably thicker and heavily lined. The tag is obviously similar to the older Makers tag. This tag reads "Brooks Brothers Est. 1818 16-24 Makers and Merchants The Original Polo Shirt Traditional Fit All Supima Cotton Made in USA of Imported Fabric."A further word about labels: This shirt has separate labels in English, Japanese, Chinese, and Korean, and probably for the EU market, French, German and Greek in very small print on the English label. There is the size label that one sees above, there is a label for care and laundering, then there are three different tags in languages other than English. It has a total of five, count them, five labels and tags at various places near the hem. The older shirt above has just the one red and white label near the back of the collar.
So the shirts are out of the packaging and it's time to compare them a bit more.
Laying the shirts out on the floor of the attic, the first thing that one notices is that the contemporay shirt (on the bottom) has a much flatter shirt tail compared with the older Makers shirt. I have a theory about this, which may not be true, but it does make a certain amount of sense. Many men wear their trousers at their hips these days, so a flatter shirt tail will stay in place better than a higher curved one as on the Makers shirt above. If one is wearing their trousers at their natural waist or thereabouts, the Makers shirt tails should stay tucked in under normal circumstances.
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The next thing that I noticed was that the armholes on the contemporary shirt (on the bottom) are much larger than the Makers shirt. The Makers shirt has higher armholes making for a closer and truer fitting shirt while still being full cut, and without much bunching of fabric in the underarm area. The shoulder width of both shirts was pretty spot on identical, so the extra room in the underarm area gives the current shirts a more "relaxed" fit.
Looking at the cuffs, I noticed was that the cuffs on the contemporary shirts are also considerably longer than those on the Makers shirt. I always liked the narrower cuffs on the older Makers shirts. They were unique amongst all of the other companies shirts that I've worn over the years - a bit more elegant. The current shirt cuffs are a bit more pedestrian.
Going further up the shirts, the next difference was a bit more worrisome. Both shirts are the same neck and sleeve size, but the contemporary shirt (again on the bottom) is larger in the collar than the Makers. Only laundering will tell if the sizes even out. My experience with the older Makers shirts is that they shrink very little.
The box pleat on the Makers shirt (on the bottom) is a bit deeper than the current shirt (on top).
Coming down the front, the pockets are nearly identical with that easy to spot Brooks Brothers curved pocket bottom. The placement of the top of the pockets were both at the third button.
Both shirts have seven button fronts, and the buttonholes on the plackets are also pretty similar in placement. Though not pictured (I figured this was enough pictures), the contemporary shirt comes with a couple of extra buttons sewn onto the bottom front of the shirt. The Makers shirt has no extra buttons.
So it was time to get things put away. In going through the cases in the attic, I came across an old well worn Huntington "G9" type jacket in navy. I got this around 1992 or 1993 and wore the heck out of it. I just can't bear to part with it.
A stack of warmer weather fun shirts and Brookscloth, Brooksweave and lighter weight shirts ready to go into cases for the winter.
I still don't know how many shirts are in the attic, and at this point I really don't care. Perhaps one day I'll make an accurate count, but it's not going to happen anytime soon.
Things are put away now and the attic looks better than when my wife saw me earlier in the middle of the project.
Well, so far there have been some significant differences between the contemporary Brooks Brothers shirt and the new old stock Brooks Brothers "Makers" shirt from 25 years ago. First impressions are that the two shirts are, of course, kin to one another - but more like a dapper easy going uncle and a chunky youthful college nephew, than that of siblings. So the plan is to launder the shirts at home a couple of times, and of course, wear them. Then send them out to be laundered a couple of times, take some measurements and then draw some conclusions. More to come.